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What goes in a setup?
« on: May 07, 2008, 11:11:18 AM »
I've been getting gradually more and more into Lowriders over the last few months or so and being a complete newbie, I was just wondering if anyone could explain what components go into a car to turn it from stock to lowrider and what each part does so that I can understand a little bit more about how the whole thing works?   :?  :oops:

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Re: What goes in a setup?
« Reply #1 on: May 07, 2008, 11:53:10 AM »
Well, in a hydraulic setup you have the pumps, which usually sit in the boot, bolted to a custom frame (which is usually wleded to the chassis of the car) - the pumps consist of the motor, which is electric (usually 12volt I think), a reservoir, which holds the hydraulic fluid, and the block in the middle of those two, which directs the fuid either out (when the pump is activated) or into (when the car is lowered) the reservoir. The number of pumps can affect the speed, you can have a lowrider with just one pump, but then some lowriders have one pump per wheel (ie 4), there have also been lowriders with more than this, but I think that's a little extravagant really! I have two pumps, which is enough for me at the moment I think!

The electric pumps are powered by batteries. The pumps are usually 12volt, but lowriders run more batteries for quicker moves (for example, my volvo has 3 batteries per pump, giving 36volts). The batteries and pumps are connected, with a series of switches in the circuit, so that one can flick a switch to activate the pumps - forcing the fluid out of the reservoir and into the cylinders, which replace the standard suspension components. Increase in pressure in the cylinders with all the fluid being forced into them raises the car! :) The fluid travels through hydraulic hoses to the cylinders.

To drop the car back down (or 'dump' it) one flicks the switch the other way to open what are known as 'dump valves' - by opening these valves the pressure in the cylinders is released and the fluid is allowed to flow back into the reservoirs on the pumps. The switches are centre-sprung, which means that they always return to the middle 'off' position - which is between the 'on' position (that activates the pumps and raises the car) and the other 'on' position (that activates the dump valves and lowers the car). Once you take your finger off the switch the car stays at whatever level you have left it at, so you don't have to drive with it fully raised or fully dropped all the time, you can choose your own level anywhere inbetween :)

Usually in switches, there is a moment where a gap exists where electricity can arc across, to combat this, lowriders use solenoids, which are like switches, but act so fast that the arcing is avoided. These are usually fixed to the frame in the boot too.

Some lowrider cars also use 'accumulators' - these act as the suspension of the car, becuase riding on hydraulic fluid would be horribly stiff and uncomfortable otherwise! Accumulators are like a ball, which is plumbed into the hydraulic system. Inside the ball there is a diafragm - one one side is the hydraulic fluid (because it's plumbed into the hydraulic system) and on the other side is a gas (nitrogen? not sure) - anyway, the gas is more easily compressed than the fluid, so the diafragm allows some movement so that the car has some suspension (the accumulators can be locked off so that the hydraulic moves can be done a little bit faster)

Hope this little essay helps you out? It's not too difficult once you know how everything works, but if you have any more questions, feel free to ask! :D

Russell

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Re: What goes in a setup?
« Reply #2 on: May 07, 2008, 12:02:40 PM »
Russell, that's brilliant, thank you!  :D

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Re: What goes in a setup?
« Reply #3 on: May 07, 2008, 01:47:06 PM »
there used to be (I havent looked there for a long time) some decent diagrams/schematics on layitlow.com..

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Re: What goes in a setup?
« Reply #4 on: May 07, 2008, 04:47:40 PM »
I remember there was a cross-section diagram of an accumulator too, that really helped me to understand what they were all about!

No problems [3j], I remember asking all the stuff that you want to know as well, you've definitely come to the right place (these guys really know their stuff!) 8)

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Re: What goes in a setup?
« Reply #5 on: May 07, 2008, 04:54:19 PM »
Thought this might help too, it's a pic of my setup:


The batteries are on either side, there are two pumps in the middle, the round red things are accumulators (you don't have to put them in like that tho, Rudey had his in his wheel arches I think?), Tthe little black boxes that you can just about see (with yellow wires coming from them) are the dump valves. The motors of the pumps are towards the front of the car, the reservoirs are towards the rear, and the 'block' (silver management bit in the middle) is where all the pipes go. The topmost accumulator is blocking the view of the hole where the hoses go through to the suspension :)

Visual aids usually help me get my head around things, hope this is of some use to you :D

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Re: What goes in a setup?
« Reply #6 on: May 08, 2008, 07:33:15 AM »
good answer Rus............
I did have a full "guide to" on MH at one time. I'll see if I have a copy. If not should we do one heer as a sticky........... The LIL one is OK but as with  most US stuff its really just about Impala's and some of the tech info is "3rd hand" at best.
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Re: What goes in a setup?
« Reply #7 on: May 08, 2008, 11:41:39 AM »
I have some free time this weekend, Ill knock-up a few posts on components, what they do and how if you want?..  I have some cross section diagrams of valves and the like at work so can add them in for visual reference too if that helps people..

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Re: What goes in a setup?
« Reply #8 on: May 08, 2008, 11:44:30 AM »
not too techy tho...........................

i'll start a sticky thread
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