Dumps Confused

[Tony100]

Rite i was look at my pumps i got earlier.. ive got  2 CCE street pumps with 2 dumps on each ( usual setup)

Im being stupid.... (pump 1) does the front and (pump 2) does the back


If i wanted to raise the front left corner i couldnt cause all of the front would lift wouldnt it?? because of the way they work?

Or am i being thick??




See what i mean? lol  ^^^^^^^^^^^^^ noy my car in any way but this is how mine setup

[fatdaddy]

your not confused, that is the way they work.
With a yank system you don't lift into t 3................. you drop into it.

Dont take this the wrong way Tony but you have a lot to learn don't you ?

DON T let some one not familiar with how lowrider systems work advise you on what to use or buy, no matter how much experience with hydraulics they have. There are good  reason why we use what we do. When Wayne and Derrie took over MH they showed system components to the designer at Wayne's place as they where going to start producing in house UK stuff. This was a firm with decades of Hydro experience but they just couldn't believe that it would work at all with what D was showing them. It wasnt till they saw a well put together proper high volt system and had explanations in depth that it clicked............ normal Hydro guys dont get it.

[Chops]

With a front-to back system (1 pump front, 1 pump rear) it's a bit easier to level the car for regular driving but you won't be able to get panic (which I thought you wanted) and it won't chip very well because the rear pump is idle while the front pump has to supply 2 rams, you can get see-saw but it's not as impressive as panic IMO.

If you set it up as side-to-side (1 pump right, 1 pump left) you can get it to panic and it'll chip a lot better because once the rear is at full lift, both pumps are supplying the front, 1 ram each.
Also you can lift into a 3 by first lifting all up to the top then dropping both rears and pumping 1 side.

It's all a matter of preference, I've had both on the BM and much prefer side-to-side for the faster moves.

[Tony100]

Ahhhhhh rite thats where i got confused because ive lookin at hydraulic manifolds and rayvern stuff ive got a bit confused .......

so to raise the front left .... you raise the front and drop the right??

Yes your very accurate when you say ive got alot to learn couldnt agree more thats why im bugging you guys to learn 

I see what you mean with the hydraullics side of it 

i spoke to the rep of related fluid power today and i showed him videos pictures and i explained what i needed

He seemd to know what i wanted and how i wanted it to work . hes going to get me a few prices on some of the following

8 Inch rams

10 Inch rams

12inch rams

4  Dump manifolds (dumps built into the pumps)

5 dump manifolds for a return (american style pumps)

single 3 way dumps as you described in your previous reply also

price on pumps aswell running 12v and 24v

He knows what i want hopefully he will give me prices on all of the above

[Chops]

so to raise the front left .... you raise the front and drop the right??

Raise everything then drop right rear to lift the left front off the ground.

[fatdaddy]

they are best for valves Tony but not for the rest..................................................

[Tony100]

what about their manifolds??

[fatdaddy]

will try to get time to post more later........................

[Tony100]

okiesss let me know whats to buy and what not to buy!!

[fatdaddy]

lets see if I can get this across................................

I know where and what to buy if you want to source from UK. I did start posting this info a bit ago but didnt get around to it.
My feeling is that is I give this info away for free it should be to the forum as a whole to help everyone who wants to use that help.

However, in Tony we have someone who is dead keen to learn and is offering to supply and so help others. If he is to make a business out of this it needs to make a profit.........................
Now, I can put all the supply details up in public here and people can choose, Tony or direct. Tony should be able to get a deal [as an account holder] to better the price people can buy for direct and still allow a profit [its no good saying you dont want/need to make a profit Tony as that isnt a sustainable business and helps no one in the long run!]. Also if you buy from a business [Tony's in this case] you have the advantages of some recall if bits dont work and of being advised what to buy if your not sure. If you buy direct you get what you ask for and if its wrong or doesnt work thats your problem. 


think i'll see what comments appear while I think on...............................

[Tony100]

Agreed you dont want every dom dick and harry irrtating this company with questions! let see what other people think meanwhile could you send me a pm on what to buy from relaited fliud and what not to buy

[Chops]

I know where and what to buy if you want to source from UK. I did start posting this info a bit ago but didnt get around to it.
My feeling is that is I give this info away for free it should be to the forum as a whole to help everyone who wants to use that help.

This would be very useful to me and a few others in the short term but once everyone on the internet knows where to get stuff direct there can never realy be another viable buisiness supplying us.

However, in Tony we have someone who is dead keen to learn and is offering to supply and so help others. If he is to make a business out of this it needs to make a profit.........................

Couldn't agree more. I would like to be able to buy propper kit from someone who actually likes lowriders (like in the days of Max) rather than going to hydro shops who just don't "get it".
I hope Tony can make a go of it

[fatdaddy]

That's exactly where I was going Andy 

Not long ago I offered all the info to Rus but as we know he has a lot on his plate being Mr Successful [and doing a dammed good job of it  ]. I he would love to do Lows but time isnt on his side.

I'm going to wait for Rus to comment [if he wants that is]...................
 

[fatdaddy]

OK.
no  one else has anything to say. Busy weekend but I'll get the info together for Monday

[Chops]